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This is also a good choice for dual use, with solid performance in both wet and dry conditions. And while it needed a little bit of heat for the compound to work, it could deliver a number of autocross runs or road course circuits at max attack. And while not as crisp as the Bridgestone, the BFG allows one to drive at larger slip angles seemingly with impunity. If you choose "C" it depends in what category you are looking at. Every route has multiple checkpoints that racers must pass through in order and they all have a recommended road-grip . skid pad G data? I think they are just fantastic budget 200tw tire. You can either visit the Part Shop out in the world or enter the garage to buy performance parts. For more information, please see our Race or Track Tires in Need for Speed Heat | Which is better?Welcome to the Militia Gaming Community, I'm Trigger Militia and this video explores the race and track tires in Need for Speed Heat. PSN- Joshbong666 turtles1236 3 years ago #3 Race means less sliding around and better grip racing. Cookie Notice 2023 Motorsport Marketing. or skid pad 'circle' test data? The first racer to cross the finish line after completing all laps or reaching the end point of a sprint first is the winner. (It's like 2001 all over again.). The tire guide was a big help in figuring this out - thanks. More interface means more friction, which means more grip. everybody outhere my car can go faster just stop i can mod my files get a 4000hp bmw so pls stop there are no fastest cars beacuse there is a speed cap and only a few cars can get to it and these are wekk known cars as there still are many fast ones, should check out the other Audi - top speed is 238 I believe, also rips through corners, The stock 180sx you get at the beginning is actually super quick with the right engine swap. This is a great triple-threat tire: cones, laps, daily. Driving feel is a little more direct than the Hankook, but pace, consistency and longevity are all on par with the RS-4. I'd definitely try a modern tire next, as the 200 TW's have caught up and exceeded many of the 100TW options. That car is all about heat tolerance. I am running CR1 in 245/40/15 in autocross and so far I really like them! Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Okay, here it is: Get a pyrometer. Pre-heating with electric tire blankets are one solution (we use these for the Honda team I crew chief for). The new Continental does cost more than its competition, however. Note that this guide will ONLY cover cars used in regular street races, not off-road events or drift events. Fantastic work once again from Andy Hollis! These peaks subsequently break off, producing dust or gravel. Super-responsive, it could dance around cones or dive to apexes with telepathic instincts. Heat in the tires tells the story; If the tire has heat, it is making traction, up to the point it gets too hot. Or account for it manually. I've decided to put this down as special mentions of cars that are either missing out on being the top tier cars for racing or cars that are deceiving in terms of performance. The following list of cars were tested by myself. Heres the top tire of all the DOT-approved R-comps. Oh, and it has some of the most favorable pricing of the bunch. After 90-minute sessions, both the ExtremeContact Force and Hankook RS-4 exhibited similar wear characteristicsnot quite a 1/32 of an inch. A little loud on the street, but its right at home delivering lots of track laps or autocross runs. Rally tires, on the other hand, allow you to carry more speed through corners, because they are harder to initiate a drift (and lose that speed). So dont talk yourself out of it just because you cant get the ultimate tool. Still quick. It's not what it used to be or what we remember lmak. But first, why does tire temperature matter? On the money with all points, and concisely delivered. Its excellent grip and tossability still delivers strong performance value in the canyons, around the cones, and hitting apexes. Archived post. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Happyshopping. I'm really excited to see what the new Continental/Hoosier collab tire does. For those looking for more speed, Maxxis offers the Victra RC -1, a 100-treadwear, R-comp model tuned for track use. Sliding: Rally tires seem to be stickier and require a bit more angle to initiate a slide, Jumping: Rally tires seem to gain slightly less airborne altitude when jumping. Thank you GRM for putting this together! In short, this tire is no slower than its predecessor, despite moving out of the Track Use onlycategory. Our 205/50R15 test tire seemed a bit on the narrow side, though. My bad. But I can't seem to find them on sites like tirerack or discounttire. End Game. Hoosier R7 Well, David Podolsky from Chicken Hawk Racing showed us a handy chart that he built using data from a test of his active tire warmers: Pressure increased slowly at first as the tire warmed beyond ambient temperatures, but the curve quickly ramped up to reveal a fairly linear relationship between temperature rise and pressure rise. Just a bump because some big tire news is coming very soon. If your Tire is "C" and Everything else is B/B-/A then it's the slowest / least desirable in that category. Drift are for the drift and are very bad when racing. How, then, do we build that heat? Has anyone tested the Track Tyres and Race Tyres ? Unless in the game its completly different and im doing it wrong lol. If they were available in a 15 inch size, I would try them for an autocross rain tire on my Miata. Step 2. You're right though, they are much better than the also super outdated NT01's or VR-1's (granted they sell 2 compounds, S1 &S2). So when you're watching those guys set pressures for the next pit stop during the frigid early morning hours (electric warmers are not allowed in IMSA) you'll know their secrets. If I'm willing to sacrifice some ultimate grip, is there a tire with similarly forgiving characteristics that are stable as it wears and heat cycles like the Hoosiers are, that might give more than 8-10 (12 on a good day now)good heat cycles and retain the benign handling characteristics of the Hoosiers at slightly lower limits? Even though its rated at only 40tw, it performs on par with the others in our Endurance 100 grouping. I'm not sure why the rt-660 is labeled a great lapping tire? Got you covered. Nankang was able to create a worthy competitor to the Yokohama A052. It features the minimum two grooves required for DOT approval and is tuned solely for the track. Looking to get a full season out of a single set of 200tw tires? All rights reserved. Sizes range from 15s to 20s. A note about that heat intolerance: This tire doesnt need any heat to activatefirst turn, it sticks. NFS Unbound is way better than I expected. In case anyone wants to get in on the Pyro game, I have a few good used Longacres I would let go for not much money. Not officially a rollover indicator, though they do often tend to end up very close to the rubber seam (what you're actually aiming for most of the time, using all of the tread rubber without getting into the sidewall rubber) and are a decent reference point as a result. If you cant find shoes that fit here, they probably dontexist. Getting good is out of your possibilities. Once the race has been marked, go to Palm City Raceway. This creates a vicious circle where the front is sticking well, but the rear has no grip to generate load to generate heat to generate grip. They are there to indicate where to find the wear bars. Whatever you use, just use it consistently so your data can be easily compared from session to session. When all tires are in the optimum range of operating temperature, you are getting maximum traction. Tested: How do tires perform on track as they wear? The Pirelli was also less forgiving. Overall, though, its not the best way to build tire heat, as theres no sustained cornering to produce prolonged friction periods. If you go by the description, the Race tyres are 100% for grip, time attacking, etc. The RT660 has a fairly similar responsiveness to the RE-71R, though not quite as crisp. Poor Hankook, always the red headed step child of the R comp class. The city is colorful, lively and full of AI cars unlike in heat where the city feels so lifeless and empty. All rights reserved. It dove down to apexes much more easily than the Hankook. Everyone can blast the "super outdated" NT01 but after all of these tests it just reaffirms my belief there isnt a better grip per dollar and least amount of fuss HPDE tire to slide around on to this day. We have noticed this in our tire testing and now incorporate a pre-test scrub/cycle day to allow all test tires to perform at their best during tests. (260-300 tread width), Hoping for a true endurance test not just 5 extra laps of a 30 second cone course :). Even with the optimal tire for your flavor of motorsport, improperly pressurized tires can impact performance. The other big variable with tire temperature is air pressure. But we have enough anecdotal use info from competitors and also test info from Tire Rack to be confident in how they are rated in the chart. Outstanding and informative content! While these tires dont meet the 200tw requirement often found in endurance racing, they can still work for those doing lap days. All hail the king of grassroots endurance racing. Interesting they didn't include them at all. I'm thinking of NittoNT01tires 275 35 18 front and 305 35 18 rear withApex 18 inch wheels for the same F80 M3 for track day use of about 6-8 times a year . Less sensitive to camber and last for more heat cycles. I would love to see a tarmac rally tire in this comparison, but I understand that there isn't a huge market for them. Very few magazines take up the gauntlet nowadays due to the expense and difficulty. A new, very worthy challenger for endurance racers. Shaving to 6/32 improves dry traction and consistency. The Eagle RSis predictable and communicative, but needs a bit of heat to work on track. (Were looking at you,Hoosier.). Your opinion? The second method of acquiring parts is via certain in-game events. The Moto2 race was even more dramatic, as it begun as a wet race and ended up with a drying track. Now run Hoosier R7's in 275-45-ZR16, which are excellent but limited for heat cycles and somewhat by wear rate. Thanks for this big test GRM! The longitudinal tread that friction imparts puts more heat into the tread surface than lateral friction, and additional radiant heat is produced by the braking system. The R1R was once the darling of the autocross world, especially in the magical 195/50R15 sizing. And I agree with the comments on the tires that I have run, like the RS4's in Lucky Dog, and the Bridgestone RE-71's in ChampCar and WRLand AER. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. While response is similarly vague, grip is outstanding. In lamest terms, drifting is a form of driving where you get your car to slide as a way to take a corner. And we're discussing a few other future tire tests, too. Yokohama A052, Falken RT660 and Nankang AR-1 are some that change dramatically after that first cycle. 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This car can quite easily get to the maximum drift with the following parts: For Chassis these are the parts you'll need: Suspension Parts: Drift Suspension (Pro) $5,000 or Showcase Suspension. The Bridgestonesare going to be it for the rest of the year,there's no going back. But which ones are the perfect match? I used the Rivals last week for fun runs with the Citrus chapter of the PCA. Looks like RS-4s are pretty much sold out, and Tire Rack isn't even listing 17" sizes. When it comes to the modern R-comp race tire market, Hoosier currently owns it with very fast lap times and minimal con- cessions to street usejust enough to earn that DOT approvalalthough Goodyear recently rejoined the segment. Do you agree with my conclusion? Off-Road vs Rally Tires for Off-Road Racing in Heat. if u max out the bettle i kid you not it will go from 0-60 in 1.93 seconds. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I need to have them on the car pretty quickly and with xmas, etc. Grip. The Rival needs a little more heat to work, but stays in the game even longer than the RE-71R. Any love for the GT Radial Champiro SX2? Here's a more direct comparison of theRT660 and the A052 (as well as the CR-1): 200-treadwear tire test | Falken RT660 vs. Yokohama A052 vs. Nankang CR-1. Scan this QR code to download the app now. Each tireand even each chassis setupcan have its own sweet spot. The latter could be very important on cooler race mornings. Thanks for this very helpful rundown of what's available, from someone with a lot of experience in careful comparison testing here, too. Thats about a 10% difference in tire pressure as temps increase, so this variable is highly worth monitoring. Long story short, my best time was 3:40.56 with the Rally tires (best Off-Road tires time was 3:42.69). Need for Speed Heat - A thrilling race experience pits you against a city's rogue police force as you battle your way into street racing's elite. Weve had great time-trial success with the Goodyear Eagle RSon our Corvette project, and SCCA GT2 racers have been knocking down lap records as well. Once we answer that question, we can get to the practical part of the discussion: how to maximize tire performance withtemperature. It can go zero to 60 mph in 2.5 seconds and tops out at 217 mph total. TL;DR: Nothing new at this point but more to come very, very soon. Just a bump since the chart has been updated. No tire has racked up more enduro wins or led more laps than the RS-4. It has nothing to do with rollover. But there's just a lot to cover about them. What do you guys use for your race builds ? GRM test to come. Now to go buy some more tires What is tread depth sensitivity? Sizing and availability are somewhat limited, but its still a favorite among many track rats. These are tires that benefit significantly from shaving. The RS4 is tried and true but the most expensive of the bunch AND directional tread. Every route has multiple checkpoints that racers must pass through in order and they all have a recommended road-grip handling profile. Running endurance races? Off-Road vs Rally Tires for Off-Road Racing in Heat Since off-road racing is not so popular in Heat, there is little to no information about. Its price matches its capabilities. Tested: How does the new Nankang Sportnex CR-S compare? I was having some problems understanding the difference between Race & Road but reading this makes it as clear as day. But it can repeat that trick lap after lap, session after sessionall the way to the cords. Indeed, they look alike, and to a large degree they perform alike. Obviously I have missed some other cars that should be on this list. Reliable resources fortrack tire testing have become almost non-existent. Available in a huge variety of sizes, including many OE fitments. They do seem grippierunder the V8 Miata than the NT01 and far better than the VR-1. Tire warmers, on the other hand, preheat the tire to operating temperature before it's sent out on track for a massage; then they can be used to slowly cool the tire over 24 or even 48 hours. Avoiding tires that break away abruptly at any point in their life is an important goal. Anything less than that indicates your race car could be getting around the track faster. Before the A052 stole the show, the big battle was BFG versus Bridges- tone. Evo 9 with a 3.8l V8 (from McLaren 570S) and Ultimate Dual Turbos, (Ultimate) 5x3lb nitros (+ nitros power as passive item), Either (Elite) Off-Road or (Elite) Rally tires. Speaking in very general terms, the reason tires get grippier when hot is because heat excites the molecules of the polymer that makes up their rubber. This excitement softens the rubber, making it more pliable and thus better able to squirm into the tiny imperfections in the track surface, creating more mechanical interface between the rubber and the road. Can I make a couple suggestions? This is for a pure track tire on a high hp/wt car. No problem. Sadly, this tire is no longer in production, but many sizes still exist at retail in large enough quantity for it to remain an option for some time. Equipping race tyres gets you all the way to the on-road/race corner. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Sheesh. If you want a reasonably priced pyrometer, get one of these probes and plug it into any digital multimeter that accepts K-type thermocouples: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H5H1YV9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1. It can be a little confusing when deciding which tires to use in Need for Speed Heat. They don't have any in the 245 15 size in stock for the dry tire. Tires. Triangles on the sidewall. This item will only be visible in searches to you, your friends, and admins. Please make the table downloadable. This is especially true for overnight endurance racing like the Thunderhill 25H. Stamped Not for Highway Use right there on the sidewall, this tire is optimized for one purpose only: going fast around cones or a road course. Since there are no tread elements to deal with standing water and slush, the tire is susceptible to hydroplaning. The RT615K+ seem to slot right behind the RT660 in terms of performance but have the added benefit of being asymmetrical, worried that these will soon be discontinued though. As you make your way around, cut in early, and go through the speed trap. The pedestrians is a nice addition too. Both radial and bias ply. Track Tyres are a vehicle modification in Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2012). Yeah 615s have been on backorder for a hot minute in that size. Adding heat to the rears pre-session allows the fronts to come up to match nicely w/o the car trying to kill you. For example, the widest Hankook Ventus R-S4 is a 305/30R19, while the Continental ExtremeContact Force comes in . When the tire is heated, the weakest molecular bonds are broken and then realigned by the dynamic forces of the tread on the pavement. They are available for all vehicles in both single player and multiplayer. Streetability isn't important, "less fusssyand expensivethan a Hoosier" is. If not make sure to ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------This channel is all about being funny,informative,and or entertaining. How much? In today's video I am going to be showing you the best tires to put on your car! I have driven the NT01's in a slightly damp environment and it was fine but standing water is basically an immediate NO from me. If so, that's our web admin thinking that the article was changed even though it was just repositioned on the site. We lost our access to the Mineral Wells airport so no more skid pad datafor now. Continental has clearly raised the Endurance 200 performance bar with its new tire. Somthing is very off thats for sure. My particular car (500 hp, 2400 lbs, Miata tire sizes) is awfully demanding on tires, though, and does respond to something with more grip. Basically, thats why concrete surfaces tend to offer better grip than asphalt. Kudos to them for their dedication and attention to detail. | Tire Test, 200tw tire test: Valino Pergea 08R and Yokohama Advan A052 take on Hankook Ventus R-S4, Maxxis Victra VR-1, Bridgestone Potenza RE-71R and BFGoodrich g-Force Rival S 1.5, Autocross and track tire test: Falken Azenis RT-660, Bridgestone Potenza RE-71R and Falken RT-615K+, Tire test: Continental ExtremeContact Sport vs. Michelin Pilot Super Sport, Summer tire test: BFG Rival vs Bridgestone RE-71R vs. Dunlop Direzza ZIII.
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